I got these brothers to work with my cattle but they aren't up to it yet and I don't have the time right now to train them or the money to have them trained. They are sweet boys and very affectionate. They love to run and play. Their names are Carl and Rufus/Sox. My daughter's dog is named Knox so I had to change Sox's name to keep the confusion down. The one with more white is Carl and he is 4. Sox is 2. They are brothers but they have been separate before so they aren't bonded.